Birds are stupid

I’m away at an office at a secure and undisclosed location. I have a large window. All day, two stupid birds are repeatedly flying into said window. Every 8 seconds or so there are two thuds.

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More stimulating the economy

It’s kinda SKSy around here.

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A debate

The merits of CCW v. terrorist attacks.

Update: Related: Don’t train in vain.

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The 100 meme

pFine… I’ll do it /pp1. strongStarted your own blog. (duh)/strongbr /2. strongSlept under the stars. (and rain. Thanks USMC!)/strongbr /3. strongPlayed in a band./strongbr /4. Visited Hawaii.br /5. strongWatched a meteor shower.br //strong6. strongGiven more than you can afford to charity.br //strong7. strongBeen to Disneyland.br //strong8. strongClimbed a mountain.br //strong9. strongHeld a praying mantis.br //strong10. Sang a solo.br /11. Bungee jumped.br /12. Visited Paris.br /13. strongWatched a lightning storm at sea.br //strong14. strongTaught yourself an art from scratch. (see #3)br //strong15. Adopted a child.br /16. strongHad food poisoning./strongbr /17. Walked to the top of the Statue of Liberty.br /18. strongGrown your own vegetables.br //strong19. Seen the Mona Lisa in France.br…

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A common debate

pa href=”http://madrocketsci.blogspot.com/” target=”_blank”Mad Rocket Scientist/a emailed me last night with a a href=”http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/12/lessons_from_mu.html” target=”_blank”link to this story regarding the Mumbai terrorist attacks/a. Speaking of the comments, MRS says/p blockquote pA common debate, played out in a predictable fashion/p/blockquote pThe article itself was primarily about the emactual/em rarity of terrorist attacks (24×7 news coverage amplifies the effect, yet terrorist attacks are still rare) and the security measures that fail to prevent them. However, the comments took on a life of their own./p pLet me summarize/p blockquote pstrongJohnMcLane- /strongThis happened because India is a gun free zone. Had civilians been allowed to carry guns, someone with an HK USP could have laid…

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A Very Brady Christmas?

Michael Bane suggest the Brady Campaign might be having a good Christmas:

Brady is listing their hoped for Number Uno Christmas present as “closing the gunshow loophole” big time, as in ending private sales period…might also be a good time to do your shopping at a gunshow (if you state still allows private gunshow sales, which CO doesn’t) or from classifed ads or f-t-f locally.

I agree with him that this is the most likely direction of attack.  It’s much harder to fight than a lot of other possibilities.

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Heller Not Like Roe

Dave Kopel has coauthored a working paper with Nelson Lund that counters Judge Wilkinson’s notion that Heller was overreaching, just like Roe.  We should be thankful we have academic folks willing to step up and counter these notions once they are floated.  Now that gun rights has entered the courts as well as the legislatures, it’ll be important for influencing legal opinioin on these matters.

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Gun Sales up 38% in Land of Lincoln

Looks like Obama’s home state isn’t immune from the surge in gun sales either.  I thought Obama told us sportsmen back home would tell us what a great guy he was?

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Will be a bit distracted today

Off to a two hour doc’s appointment. A bald 7/8s caucasian was not designed for the Sonoran Desert, and so they have to attack diffuse solar kerotoses on my top-knot with something that I gather isn’t chemo, but is somewhat like it. Cover your scalp with a chemical that is taken up more rapidly by the abnormal cells, then expose scalp to bright light, which activates the chemical and kills them. (It also leaves you very photosensitive for days). Probably not the most fun thing I’ll do this week.

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Bias in the Media

The Great Falls Tribune printed an editorial that criticized the National Rifle Association, and then would not even offer the courtesy of printing a reply.  It’s hard to get our message out there when the media is actively conspiring to keep it out of the public light.  And they wonder why the print media is contracting faster than a neutron star.

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The Bear Truth

New Jersey is overrun with bears.  More dangerously, they are losing their fear of humans.  It’s really only a matter of time before there’s a horrible incident.  Some politicians in New Jersey are beginning to criticize Jon Corzine, who’s caved to the animal rights folks on having a bear hunt:

“The Governor’s bear management policies are based on little more than a reflexive opposition to hunting, disregard of science and a dose of wishful thinking,” said Oroho. “The numbers compiled by the Division of Fish and Wildlife demonstrate a different approach is adamantly necessary.”

We’ll see how cute the animal rights people think the bears are when they end up preying on…

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Some NFA History

Interesting post at subguns.

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Follow up

Your favorite gun sucks. Updated.

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What Media Bias Against Guns?

This anti-NRA piece appeared in the Great Falls Tribune. It notes the typical anti-NRA talking points that we’re used to and know to be incorrect. As such, NRA’s Chris Cox wrote a letter to address the concerns (the letter appears below). But this isn’t really a post about the letter. Rather, it’s a post about how the paper’s personnel responded to the letter and, apparently, refused to run it.

The NRA person told me that the woman in the letters department was unhelpful, uninterested and she was unwilling to go so far as to say whether they would even try to get our response published. Additionally, she wouldn’t give her last…

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Weep for the future

Cam rounds up national cases of teh st00pid. I mean, the new visitors’ center in DC got our national motto wrong.

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Speaking of Florida CCW permits

A look at permit revocations.

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Why not one gun a lifetime?

Scott Bach looks at gun rationing proposals in New Jersey. Another gun law that targets only the law-abiding.

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Spike

A graph of CCW trends in Florida.

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Gun Porn

AR-57.

Custom .50 confiscated in Mexico.

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Sign of the times

High tech begging.

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stimulating the economy

And bonus gun porn.

All these reports of folks buying guns prior to the ascension. Some bloggers chime in on their acquisitions:

Rich gets a new XDM.

Sam and Denise get three rifles.

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IDF Sniper Rifles

Here.

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Dumb criminal

Occasionally, a case of teh st00pid. Unfortunately, this was not one of those cases:

Police say Haggins put his pistol on a table, walked over to the man and snatched the bracelet. But while Haggins was taking the bracelet, police say another victim grabbed the gun and pointed it at Haggins.

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SHOT Show and Boy Scouts

Manufacturers Invited to Attend SHOT Show BSA Meeting

NSSF, NRA and the Boy Scouts of America will be holding a meeting at the SHOT Show to inform manufacturers about what’s in store during the BSA’s 100th Anniversary and how manufacturers can support the efforts being made to introduce more youths to the shooting sports. Learn more about the meeting.

Topics include the 2010 BSA Jamboree, council shooting sports changes, high adventure base advanced shooting sports programs and new shooting programs geared towards retaining youth in the shooting sports.

Murdoc may actually check this out if he gets a chance.

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AR Five Seven: 5.7×28mm AR Upper

Sneak peek of AR57

AR57 PDW Upper on Standard AR Lower

AR57 PDW Upper on Standard AR Lower

The Firearm Blog has the goods:

The AR Five Seven is a one piece 5.7×28mm upper that attaches to a AR-15 lower and uses the 50 round FN P90 magazines.

Also see his earlier post on the subject, which includes a reader comment about turning an AR magazine body into a brass catcher.

–cross-posted from MO.

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D.C.’s Evolving Gun Laws

The D.C. City Council continues its herky-jerky reactions to the Supreme Court’s Heller decision overturning its ban on usable guns in the home.
To what extent complicated or demanding registration processes impinge on the Second Amendmend right declared in Heller will doubtless be a topic in many future lawsuits.

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Massacre in Mumbai

If there’s a lesson to be gleaned from the India massacre, it’s that individuals ultimately are responsible for their personal safety. India has strict gun control laws that make it virtually impossible for private citizens to arm themselves, so they rely on armed professionals to protect them.

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Texas: Senator to Propose Concealed Handguns on College Campuses

“All we’re asking is that you allow us to make that choice. If I can legally carry somewhere else, allow me to make the decision whether or not I want to carry here on campus,” said Matthew Rogers, founder of Texas AM’s chapter of Students for Concealed Carry on Campus.
At least one person in the Texas Legislature agrees. State Senator Jeff Wentworth of San Antonio, an Aggie himself, has promised to propose a bill that would allow those with a permit to pack heat on campus.

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New Jersey: Targeting Gun Rights Instead of Criminals

A bill pending in the State Senate and up for committee vote 12/8 (S1774) is a bad dose of old medicine. It’s a proposal to ration the Constitutional right of law abiding citizens to own handguns beyond the existing regulatory thicket, which already slows exercise of those rights to a trickle. It ignores violent behavior and known sources of illegal trafficking, instead restricting only persons investigated and pre certified as acceptable to own firearms.

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The Fight’s On


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West Virginia: Spending turns hunter orange to money green

We hear, over and over again, that West Virginia’s deer hunting seasons contribute mightily to the state’s economy.
The latest survey, issued in 2006, shows just how important hunting is in the Mountain State.
The bottom line? Hunters pump $285 million a year into merchants’ pockets.

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Call to Mobilize in Canada


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“I’m the NRA”


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Sen. McClintock Declares Victory!


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Drunk Drivers Against Guns


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A Good Thing


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Medicare to Cover Prescription Handguns?


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The ‘Gun-Show Loophole,’ Revisited


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AK: Fort Richardson Soldier Dead Due to Army Policy


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The Prescription Palm Pistol


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More Sniping


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OFF Update in re “Millner” E-Mail


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This Day in History: December 4


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Concealed Carry (CCW)

I live in Illinois, which is one of only 2 states that has a complete ban on the carrying of a concealed firearm for self defense.  That means that while the criminals in Chicago are armed, I am unarmed.  It also means that many of my fellow Illinois residents are unaware of the benefits of [...]img src=”http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/LearnAboutGuns/~4/474343218″ height=”1″ width=”1″/

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Quote of the Day

From Blackfork on reloading your own ammo:

You have to handload to shoot serious rifle match scores.  You just can’t get good enough ammo cheap enough without doing it yourself.

I am not nearly the shooter that Blackfork is, but I can tell you this is true.  There is definitely a difference between what you carefully hand load for yourself, and what you can buy for any reasonable price commercially.  Even using my primitive equipment, and skills, I do better with my own hand loads than I do with commerical ammo.  In these Obama days, handloading is a skill we should all master.

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McClintock Wins!

Looks like Tom McClintock managed to pull it out in California’s 4th.  McClintock is a great friend of the Second Amendment, and of conservative causes in general.  Unlike a lot of other politicians, he walks the walk.  So this is also a nice silver lining to an otherwise ominous dark cloud.

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The True Aims of State Education


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Good Guys 3, Bad Guys 0


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You had better be damn sure of what you’re shooting at

Be sure of your target and what’s behind it:

The Vermont Supreme Court has ruled that a hunter who shoots and injures someone because he or she didn’t properly identify the target can face an aggravated assault charge.

In a case arising out of Lamoille County, the court upheld the aggravated assault conviction of Eric Patch, who was out partridge hunting in November of 2006 when he saw movement in a tree, fired his 12-gauge shotgun and hit a deer hunter.

Jeff Soyer agrees with the ruling. So does Murdoc.

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fools in sheepdogs clothing

Three Percenters” are self-righteous, anarchist, egotistical, self-centered, solipsistic, incorrigible asses, and are appropriately full of shit.

*takes a deep breath* There, I said it, and I will be damned if I do not stand by it. If the previous actions and words of those “three percenters” has been any indication for it, I am going to suffer for it , however, strangely, I am comfortable with that.

And now for the explanation to go along with my opening comments. A while ago, I stumbled across the previously-linked letter to the editor, quoted below:

Dear Editor:

Joe Bialek from Cleveland proposes the licensing and registration of all weapons currently in civilian hands.…

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No Sacred Cows

Your favorite gun sucks.

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Almost a thousand bears a day

Bear Hunters Harvest Stands at Fifth Highest So Far

Pennsylvania Game Commission preliminary bear harvest figures show that 2,946 bears were taken during the recently completed three-day season (Nov. 24-26), and an additional 68 bears were harvested during the two-day archery bear harvest (Nov. 19-20).

That’s a lot of bears. The largest was a male that weighed in at 716 pounds.

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Texas Tales


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The Canned Gourmet

I was amused by these reviews for various prepared and canned foods.  For those of us on the go, it’s a good look at what’s good and what sucks.  How can you beat reviews that go like this:

Boulder Ice Cream – Super Premium Vanilla

Says “produced with milk from cows not treated with rBGH.” Well maybe they should be. Cuz this ice cream sucks. Horrible consistency (too globby). The flavor may or may not have been okay, but it doesn’t matter. As the great philosopher Carrito once said, “Ice cream should not be like taffy.”

I will have to reference this before I restock my office Emergency Lunch Survival Kit.  What prompted me to…

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If the number was any smaller, it’d rival the Detroit Lions’ ‘08 record

p / pa href=”http://www.gregandbeth.com/blog/index.php?id=1874″ target=”_blank”Greg points out some interesting statistics for CCW here in Florida/a/p blockquote pAdditional stats from 10/1/1987 (when shall issue licensing was passed) to 10/31/2008 (the last full month of data available): /pli1,408,907 licenses have been issued. /lili533,181 of those are current and active. /lili166 have been revoked due to a gun-related crime. …/li/blockquote pIn further conversations, he discovered that 3,716 permits were revoked due to crime. So let’s use the bigger number for grits and shins./p pstrong”AHA!”/strong say the anti-gun people. “See! Over emthree thousand/em emso called ‘law abiding citizens’ are criminals!!!1!eleven!!/em”/p pNot so fast. A little math is in order. 3,716 / 1,408,907 * 100…

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Ammo Auctions


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This Week’s Crime in “Gun Free” Oak Park, IL

As I#8217;ve mentioned before, Oak Park, IL has a handgun ban.  People such as Frank Vozak, who chairs Oak Park#8217;s health board, erroneously think that that handgun ban somehow makes Oak Park #8220;gun free.#8221; Just as having a law against murder doesn#8217;t make the state of Illinois #8220;murder free,#8221; Oak Park#8217;s handgun ban doesn#8217;t prevent [...]img src=”http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/LearnAboutGuns/~4/473818421″ height=”1″ width=”1″/

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Toys R Us

First of all, listen to the
911 call (2.4 MB mp3) about the dual shooting at a Toys R Us store in Palm Desert, California last Friday. The tape is 2:39 long, and the authorities arrive at the very end. Honestly, that’s not half bad. Considering all of the problems the dispatcher had getting the address and name of the location, I was surprised they were able to respond that quickly.

It’s good that the two guys shot each other. If one or both of them would have decided to shoot others, that would have been a long two and a half minutes.

The women each of the two dead guys were with started…

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Pirates

I wonder if Al Gore is using his carbon credit money to fund all these recent pirate attacks we’re seeing?

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Pittsburgh City Council approves stolen gun ordinance in violation of Pennsylvania law

Pittsburgh City Council virtually assured yesterday that the city will follow Philadelphia in requiring gun owners to tell police when their firearms are lost or stolen.

Council members voted 6-1 for an ordinance that would give gun owners 24 hours to call police after they notice that a firearm is missing. It would subject them to a $500 fine if they don’t report such a loss, and a $1,000 fine plus possible prison time for a second such failure.

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Lots of Babies

Wyatt is once more a father, and Clayton Cramer is now a grandfather.  Congrats to both.

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More IDF sniper information

pDoubleTapper emailed me the other day about a href=”http://doubletapper.blogspot.com/2008/11/idf-sniper-rifles.html” target=”_blank”a great post of his on IDF snipers/a. I totally failed to link to it (sorry DT) but I just read a href=”http://doubletapper.blogspot.com/2008/12/idf-sniper-training.html” target=”_blank”another sniper post/a this time on training, and thought I’d make up for it by linking to ‘em both here./p pDoubleTapper is a great read for Israeli related gun and military information, so if he’s not on your blogroll or in your blog reader, he should be!/pimg src=”http://blog.robballen.com/aggbug/7038.aspx” width=”1″ height=”1″ /

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Stay Classy Ed

I can’t believe we elected this guy … twice.

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Statement from Remington

Over at War on Guns.  I think that response might be from Tommy Millner, who is the CEO.  I’m glad to hear Remington will be applying pressure where pressure is due.  We have still heard nothing from H-S Precision.

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One-Gun-A-Month in New Jersey

It’s up for a committe vote in New Jersey on December 8th.  Scott Bach has this to say:

Unfortunately, a bill pending in the State Senate and up for committee vote 12/8 (S1774) is a bad dose of old medicine. It’s a proposal to ration the Constitutional right of law-abiding citizens to own handguns beyond the existing regulatory thicket, which already slows exercise of those rights to a trickle. It ignores violent behavior and known sources of illegal trafficking, instead restricting only persons investigated and pre-certified as acceptable to own firearms. Even mainstream media recognize the ineffectiveness of this approach.

He goes on to describe how utterly worthless this law is going…

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NJ firearm rationing proposals

Scott Bach discusses it. As he points out, NJ already requires a permit for each handgun purchase, which can take months to obtain. Why add one-gun-a-month? Is there any claim that criminal “straw men” are out there getting a dozen permits a month so they can resell?

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Pennsylvania: Pittsburgh City Council Gives Final Approval to Illegal Gun Control Ordinance

Earlier this week, the Pittsburgh City Council took a final vote and passed an ordinance that would require gun owners to report the loss or theft of firearm within a 72-hour period or face fines and possible imprisonment. The measure will now go to the Mayor for his signature or veto.

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Sound Gun Control Laws

Eugene Volokh offers some excellent criticism to the New York Times for the Brady Campaign inspired editorial from yesterday.  I don’t think they really want to get into specifics too much at this point.  They are mostly interested in getting the public used to hearing “reasonable” and “gun laws” in the same sentence, in the hopes that they’ll, by default, assume that all gun control laws are reasonable.  The real sorry side to this story is that the New York Times chooses to do the heavy lifting for The Brady Campaign, rather than seriously think about the issues.

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Hurdles

pIf you look back on this blog just two years ago, you’ll notice I rarely posted about guns. Heck, a few years before that and it was all politics (ah… the salad days of 2000+ daily hits), then I simply was aimless for a while./p pHowever, I began to realize that it was in my best interest to be able to defend myself if need be. Now I am 6′3″, two hundred and something pounds, walk with a purpose and make eye contact with people, so I don’t project “EASY TARGET”, but that doesn’t preclude me from being selected by the dumb criminals. So, I looked at my options and…

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Stimulating the Economy


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Palm Pistol Update

The Palm Pistol was criticized for possibly being an AOW. Now, not only is it not an AOW, but a medical device:

I thought you might be interested to learn that the FDA has completed its “Device/Not a Device” determination and concluded the Palm Pistol will be listed as a Class I Medical Device, exempt from 510(k) Pre-Market Notification in accordance with 21 CFR 890.5050 “Daily Activity Assist Device.”

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Hoisted on their Own Petard

I just got word from Matt Carmel, inventor of the Palm Pistol:

I thought you might be interested to learn that the FDA has completed its “Device/Not a Device” determination and concluded the Palm Pistol will be listed as a Class I Medical Device, exempt from 510(k) Pre-Market Notification in accordance with 21 CFR 890.5050 “Daily Activity Assist Device.”

I have now submitted an application to the CMS contractor Noridian for a DME (Durable Medical Equipment) Coding Verification in order to be assigned an HCPCS code. Once assigned , physicians will be able to prescribe the Palm Pistol for qualified patients who may seek reimbursement through Medicare or private health insurance companies.

Matt…

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Citizen, arm thyself

St. Louis City Leader Says Police Ineffective, Tells Residents to Get Armed

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SHOT Show under one roof

The 2009 SHOT Show in Orlando, Florida, was going to be split between two halls at the Orange County Convention Center. Overflow has been common for the past several years as the number of exhibitors has outpaced the available floor space. Pressurized tents, outbuilding, and temporary structures have all served to house the extras, and both vendors and attendees have suffered for it.

The announcement was just made, however, that there has been a change in plans:

Because of persistent negotiating, creative planning and the cooperation of the Orange County Convention Center, all of the exhibitors scheduled to display in two separate buildings, North-South and West, instead will be in one central location.

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Mr. Completely Still Having Problems

This is really bad news.  Thoughts and Prayers from us all.  Let’s hope he’ll be on the mend soon.

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Post-Heller DC

The city council there continues to push gun laws:

The D.C. Council voted unanimously yesterday to give preliminary approval to legislation that would require gun owners to renew their registrations every three years and to notify police annually whether they still own guns.

The Fire Arms Registration Amendment, which would also ban assault weapons, was described as building on legislation passed by the council in September to adhere to the U.S. Supreme Court ruling overturning the city’s 32-year handgun ban.

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New DC Gun Law

Looks like DC is, once again, doing its level best to skirt the Supreme Court’s ruling in Heller:

The D.C. Council voted unanimously yesterday to give preliminary approval to legislation that would require gun owners to renew their registrations every three years and to notify police annually whether they still own guns.

The Fire Arms Registration Amendment, which would also ban assault weapons, was described as building on legislation passed by the council in September to adhere to the U.S. Supreme Court ruling overturning the city’s 32-year handgun ban.

The new legislation also mandates Microstamping, a practice that’s not common in the firearms industry.  It also requires training, submission to a background check every six…

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Soldier-Wearable Acoustic Targeting System

A wearable sniper detection system

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PSH-Inducing

Aside from, say, the coming zombie apocalypse or just to scare the crap out of a gun-fearing wussy, I don’t really know what the point of a chainsaw mounted to a rifle would be. With videos.

Update: It is apparently inspired by a video game. Ok, then.

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Speaking of pink guns

Gun porn.

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Well, their reporters commit gun crimes

Over at the National Shooting Sports Foundation Blog, Bill Brassard notes that the Boston Globe printed an article full of crap and John Rosenthal, but I repeat myself. Shouldn’t surprise anyone, really. After all, John Rosenthal took one of the Globe’s alleged reporters, Steve Bailey, across state lines where they allegedly proceeded to violate federal firearms laws.

Update: More from Bruce.

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Filibuster

Saxby Chambliss wins. Assuming the Republicans find the balls they’ve been missing for the last six years, they can at least stall.

Update: More from SIH.

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Flame War

Markos talks smack about your particular favorite gun. Heh. What, no FAL?

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Reciprocation


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Obama and guns

You remember all that time before the election when the press was trying to convince us bitter clingers that Obama didn’t want to take our guns? And how the DLC set up that fake pro-gun group to further alleviate our fears?

Well, unsurprisingly, they didn’t mean it. Here they are now:

The Paper of Making Up The Record giddy at the prospect of new gun laws.

At the WaPo: It would be nice if President-elect Obama had the time to focus his energies on repeal of the Second Amendment

And the trend seems to be to spin it as the NRA not mattering much. Yeah, right. Then why so much time spent by the DLC, the…

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Quote of the Day

Sebastian: Calling Bryan Miller a moderate on gun control is like calling Fred Phelps a moderate on gay rights.

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Christmas lights

Heh.

I did ours this weekend.

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Huh?

I did not know GLOCK made a revolver.

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More pink guns

You know what you need for all those pink guns? Pink Laser Grips from Crimson Trace.

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That will spoil the mood for sure

Man says he shot wife during sex
Husband: it was an accident

Urbana, Ohio:

An Urbana Township woman is listed in critical after a strange accident. Investigators say 38-year-old Carolyn Havens was shot in the chest by her husband, Timothy Havens…

Havens told authorities he was reaching for something on a night stand while they were being intimate, when the .38 caliber pistol went off, striking his wife in the upper chest.

That seems ridiculously unbelievable.

This story says he’s been arrested and goes into some detail about a history of domestic violence, restraining orders, and broken restraining orders.

The woman is in critical condition. It doesn’t say whether she was able to make a statement of any…

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Guess that explains it

Police in India were criticized for not shooting back. Now, we know why:

Cops just had 577 rifles, hadn’t fired in 10 yrs

The state constabulary was grossly unprepared to deal with the worst-ever terror attacks on the metropolis because of an acute shortage
of weapons and ammunition.

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Mr. C. Update

Here’s hoping for a speedy recovery.

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Spendy

New civilian SCAR comes in at $2,700.

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Clinton as SecState

Ineligible?

Not that a little thing like the constitution would get in the way anyway.

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my 100, AKA “I need to get out more”


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Just some more data for anyone applying for a FOID card. I dropped my FOID card application in the mail from a suburb north of Chicago 19 days ago. After reading this thread, I called the ISP FOID office just to see what was up. Initially, the phone was busy. So I just kept dialing the number and got through to the auto attendant after about 5 minutes. After that, it took less than 5 minutes of hold time before I was able to speak with a very helpful and professional customer service rep. She…

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I havent recieved my FOID card yet and it has been about 53 days since I went to my local gun shop and they sent my app in for me. I tried calling this number 217-782-7980 and its like they have the phone off the hook and dont want to be bothered. I can never get through to them. I was hoping to purchase a fire arm by now and learn to shoot but at this rate I dont think I will ever recieve my card. What can I do?


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SpankyInChicago wrote:I don’t know why guns are such a political issue. I voted for Obama, been a lifelong Democrat, as liberal as possible (almost socialist really) and I still enjoy target shooting. Don’t worry, friends, he won’t take away your guns. You can be socialist and like guns too!

I really wish that Obama’s goal was not to take our gun rights away, but the facts seem to indicate otherwise:
http://www.learnaboutguns.com/2008/08/2 … ts-record/
http://www.learnaboutguns.com/2008/11/1 … rol-plans/
http://www.learnaboutguns.com/2008/10/2 … ack-obama/
http://www.learnaboutguns.com/2008/11/0 … ideo-clip/
http://www.learnaboutguns.com/2008/11/1 … ownership/


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Re: Has your FOID Application Been Delayed for More than 30 Days

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Topic By: SpankyInChicago ON: Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:58 pm
I don’t know why guns are such a political issue. I voted for Obama, been a lifelong Democrat, as liberal as possible (almost socialist really) and I still enjoy target shooting. Don’t worry, friends, he won’t take away your guns. You can be socialist and like guns too!

Anyway.

I wanted to just sign in and note that I too am having issues with a delayed FOID card application.

I was a FOID card holder previously, but since I hadn’t owned any firearms for some time, I let the card expire. That was several years ago. Recently I’ve…

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